Curse

Dark Tykane · Oct 31, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20

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Originally Posted by vespertine

nice1

allthough, i think there are better builds for condition-55.. such as mo/e or e/mo with burning speed.. (-7 degen)..

btw.. tainted didn't work with aatxes (tried 3 times, but they weren't infected)

That shouldn't be too easy to pull off any more....spirit bond is only 10 hits now so a monk would kill his regen and die fast without spirit bond easily healing the degen without failure.

This build though....is an old concept but thanks for showing how this is a new alternative

ForgeWhelp · Oct 31, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

I say meh, the minos still brake aggro at 50% health. Might be slightly faster than SS, but I'm not seeing it as a huge improvement. Still basically killing them 1 at a time dith a degen on the others instead of SS damage.

blackdoctor · Oct 31, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45

I used this and works, to speed it add putrid explosion. Works very well

Gimme Money Plzkthx · Nov 01, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38

How do you prevent the minotaurs running...

solingro · Nov 01, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

They run from Tainted Flesh after a while...

Eric_Et · Nov 01, 2006, 11:43 AM // 11:43

They run from anything that kills them away

there is no perfect thing

JunkHead · Nov 03, 2006, 11:22 AM // 11:22

I've tried tinkering with your initial build with minotaurs in the elona mission.
I tried with
Protective Spirit, Healing Breeze, Bitter chill, Tainted, Well of Suffering, Essence bond, Mending, BS. It worked pretty well, the speed at which they died once you gota few wells of suffering up was great. If you can bitter chill one that retreats and stick a well in their "staging" area, even the runners go down fast.

I also tried with more degen, going with the same build as above but with Tainted, Well of suffereing, and Poisned Heart with 13 Curses, 12 Death Magic, 9 Prayerrs, 9 Healing. The degen really did add up, but it's hard to survive poisoned heart's -2 health regen. If you cast it slightly before engaging the initial group of minotaurs it works well though, and then once the herd gets a little thinned out. Over all i'd say the posioned heart build was a little faster, but also had a higher death rate. I swapped putried explosion in a couple runs, and found it a lot slower than the Well of Suffering. I'd have to say that bitter chill version is probably safer and faster in the long run. With either build though the minotaur runs went pretty quickly, probably just a little slower than my pre nerf SS runs.

Eric_Et · Nov 03, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

I've tried tinkering with your initial build with minotaurs in the elona mission.
I tried with
Protective Spirit, Healing Breeze, Bitter chill, Tainted, Well of Suffering, Essence bond, Mending, BS. It worked pretty well, the speed at which they died once you gota few wells of suffering up was great. If you can bitter chill one that retreats and stick a well in their "staging" area, even the runners go down fast.

I also tried with more degen, going with the same build as above but with Tainted, Well of suffereing, and Poisned Heart with 13 Curses, 12 Death Magic, 9 Prayerrs, 9 Healing. The degen really did add up, but it's hard to survive poisoned heart's -2 health regen. If you cast it slightly before engaging the initial group of minotaurs it works well though, and then once the herd gets a little thinned out. Over all i'd say the posioned heart build was a little faster, but also had a higher death rate. I swapped putried explosion in a couple runs, and found it a lot slower than the Well of Suffering. I'd have to say that bitter chill version is probably safer and faster in the long run. With either build though the minotaur runs went pretty quickly, probably just a little slower than my pre nerf SS runs.

hmm i duno how u survive with them hitting you that much at the start, inless you do it slow...

JunkHead · Nov 03, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by Eric_Et

hmm i duno how u survive with them hitting you that much at the start, inless you do it slow...

I don't take it slow. Healing Breeze + Mending can handle quite a few minotaurs. It's true that there will be a few close calls, but should be able to survive.